Brother Sky, I agree its a very fine line. by keeprunning August 19th, 2021, 9:29 pm, Post Michael passed away in December 2019. There are curious minds around here (other than mine) who would like to know, as they dont understand the decision. This is going back about four years now. I dont know but apparently some confusion and many paths to many trees of life. In his initial announcement, he stated that the Lord wanted the podcasts translated into Spanish. The newly-confirmed couple was seen leaving the Caribbean island of St. Barts together after several days soaking up the sun. Heroically. .. In a new Helps by Topic page, there is a link to False Revelation and Gospel Extremism. In that category, there are a couple scriptures, several talks by apostles, and even church history resources. I think they all probably went to one too many Lynn Bryson firesides when they were younger. There is no fear in love. In a later podcast, he promised, You spending time with the Lord every day is designed to bring you to this place where you too can say, I did look unto my God and did praise him all the day long. (Podcast 019: 1 Nephi 18, abt 29:24) Stroud encouraged listeners to write down any revelations received during this holy time with the Lord, and at various points he shared revelations he received. Why not? He even admitted he was obsessed with the idea of The Remnant. All people are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Benson ruined their marriage, or Boyd K. Packer, or other leaders who taught something(s) one spouse embraced so extremelyBUT WAS NOT MEANT IN THE EXTREMEthat marriages fell apart. If God offers gifts, are we supposed to disrespect the gift by refusing to seek after it? Im with you 110%. In June, she elaborated on the process of President Nelson writing impressions down on a yellow note pad and how she has been prompted at times to leave the room. The true believer will not hastily accept the lies about the pandemic or the cure but will stop and take a moment to consider what God says. Recent Arrests. Use the Information in this Book to Prepare for What Comes Next. Since then there have been tens of thousands of articles, blogs, posts, and books that have been written based upon Michaels original work.In addition to A Remnant Shall Return, Michael has written two other ground breaking books Daniel 11 and Revelation The Vision of John the Divine. It is believing that these things are real and, as some seem to think, more important than anything, that is our biggest stumbling block to establishing Zion. By Michael Rush. Now, the church excommunicates someone who teaches that these stories are to be applied to us, each of us, equals, loved equally?. So should we all be silent lest we cause sorrow unintended, even though the vast majority find goodness in our words? Such drug usage stands in sharp contrast to his love of studying the Book of Mormon, earning him a reputation among his friends as a scriptorian. He says he became a man obsessed only with learning about faith, not following. I have appreciated the respect given even when people here disagreed with each other. While the church doesn't regularly provide information about excommunication or resignation, those listed here have made such information public. The purpose of the stories, in my opinion of course, is to show these men doing a duty which in many cases cost them their lives. Click a location below to find Michael more easily. First, Stroud got specific when describing a process to commune with heavenly beings. MICHAEL B FITZGERALD. To what end? Utah Historical Quarterly. Its just being wise about it. Listen to Mikes podcasts for your self. (It even had my 2017 W&T post on Mike Stroud.) Why? Rush was the first LDS scholar to accurately decipher the prophetic writings of Ezra now known as Ezras Eagle. The concept of personal revelation has been a source of strength and tension since the beginning of the Church. Im a big fan of moderation and pluralism, but I continue to see a lot of talk about what the Church obviously should do. Michael B Rush; All are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. David Whitmer believed Jesus Christ appeared to him in the form of a deer, for pitys sake! Mike Stroud Other false teachers like Snuffer wrote their own material. There was also no reason to test the spirits as the author accuses. In my previous post, I poked a little bit at Lynn Bryson. Thats my kind, naturally . This is the official page for Michael B. - by Michael B Rush Free Download - See the Analyzed Differences Between The Last Days Timeline and A Remnant Shall Return - Click Here Michael B Rush wrote this book as a Michael B. These are the scriptures of the common man not of the elite. At the time of this writing, Michael is the Corporate Controller of a $5 billion manufacturing company. It was inappropriate for me to teach that temple ordinances, specifically the use of altars, should be practiced outside of the temple. That is what made Mike Stroud one of the most dangerous False teachers in the church. That is the reality of who we are and that everyone needs to wake up to to establish Zion. Did you do this 4 times a day for 4 years? After the excommunication was announced, those behind the Google doc and Mike Stroud Podcast Exposed Facebook page were blamed for the disciplinary action and received public backlash. As Elder Neal A. Maxwell taught, To those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, it is clear that the Father and the Son are giving away the secrets of the universe!13. "661: Abby Huntsman and Carrie Sheffield and their Transitions Out of Mormonism". View all posts by Mary Ann. Rush. Actor Michael B. Jordan takes over as Alexa by Amazon in this Super Bowl LV commercial. It was a well attended meeting and there was a good spirit there. Fund Franchise michael b rush excommunicated. With Rodger Corser, Callan Mulvey, Nicole da Silva, Ashley Zukerman. Michael B. Schism, at least in the sense that the United Methodists are now facing, seems like a very distant notion to me. 4. Replace it with righteous dominion? Hierarchy is a perception of of the fallen state We perceive that it exists because of our natural eyes. The superficial milk seeking, moralistic therapeutic diesism found in the minds of those like yourself have changed the way we teach the doctrines of the gospel over the course of my life and I am greatly disappointed by your ilk. As an adult convert, I took everything I was told enthusiastically and believed every word. It is simultaneously hilarious and tragic that an institution who makes such extraordinary (some would say literally unbelievable) claims about personal revelations, heavenly visitations, etc. Second, Stroud suggested that the Lord inspired this podcast series for a specific audience, and he asked for help reaching that audience. Taking heed of deception is not being afraid of deception. If you seek professional advice, please see a licensed professional with your respective government. It seems if we are going to seek out heavenly mysteries and secrets of the universe, we may need to exercise more caution along the way. Then they came down and did something about it. Learn how your comment data is processed. Then heed the words of truth and light Rush, author of: A Remnant Shall Return-Daniel 11-REVELATION the Vision of John Divine. Of course, I get all those things. What Does Eh Mean In Texting, Where are the stories of humble priests who offer the remaining candlesticks to the thief who spent years at hard labor for stealing a loaf of bread to feed his starving children? 2. Because of the higher calling that theyve appointed themselves to, all other rules can be ignored. University of Utah Press, 2018. I pray for them. That by itself, of course, wouldnt make such an instruction appropriate, but it would authorize an excommunication for Mormon-speak apostacy. Wise teachers like Jesus would never tell us to be afraid because it would directly limit our ability to grow in faith and love. Here we know essentially nothing about whatever Google.docs article/letter you refer to. The Facebook page was taken down temporarily for safety concerns. Whats with that? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. He is also an adviser with the National Diversity Coalition for Trump. Then Samuel the Lamanite on the wall, andoh, oh, oh! Now I havent followed Rowe at all, but I understand her to be conservative, focusing on preparing for the end times. Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit As JS said we can govern ourselves and let the spirit guide. Whitepages helps 19 people every second do reverse phone lookups , find people and get background checks , including public records , in order to make smarter, safer decisions. One does not expect everyone to recognize such but we should be prudent enough to listen to those who we might think were well apprised of discerning Good and Evil. by Trucker August 20th, 2021, 9:30 pm, Post (I wasnt aware hed started podcasting again until after his excommunication, so there was a lot to catch up on.) This whole exchange and the podcast, disciplinary activities, uproar, etc paints a vivid picture of a great and spacious building filled with laughing, sneering, finger pointing believers. Couples divorced when one spouse wanted to follow Stroud and the other didnt. Were I to answer that question, I would simply be joining in the cacophony. These are our examples. If were not supposed to strive for these things, then what are the stories for? Fenerbahe Players 2020, Stroud that he has been excommunicated and called an apostate, and is so harshly judged by so many. This is the official page for Michael B. Eleven: Daniel 11 (Understanding the Last Days Series Book 2) Book 2 of 4: Understanding the Last Days Series 295 by Michael B Rush Format: Kindle Edition Kindle Edition $9.99 Paperback $17.99 See all details Rush has been a life long student of the scriptures. Irony of ironies! Michael B Rush may have been arrested in or around of Florida, on or around Oct 30, 2010. A Facebook page was put up in December called Mike Stroud Podcast Exposed, modeled after another Exposed page. The Chaplain wrote a complaint in the base newsletter about people preferring to go to the mountains on the Sabbath, which included me. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 11:58 am, Post Mike Stroud: Bagley, Will. Many prophets exist; men and women alike, but only one is THE prophet. Related To Shirley Rush. But its clear that many recent changes have been made specifically to strengthen the rising generation, so losing the younger generation has been a big concern. She was one of the most loved people in the class. Comparison. However, that was one very spiritual experience he shared with us that has stuck with me through life. , and anything else that is cult-like or weird.. Rush Limbaugh reached millions of listeners via his golden microphone with his shows airing in small stations out in rural America that even Fox News couldnt reach. Many have felt so alone they have succumbed to suicide. Required fields are marked *. Another problem is that God isnt the only spirit that can pop things into your mind. I really like A Remnant Shall Return (which covers Ezra's Eagle) and Daniel 11. The timing of the restoration of the nation. in Section 6.7.3 is a crime. While it is true that we teach of visions and angelic ministrants and such we also teach of the adversarys counterfeits as well and the imperative of learning to discern between deception and Godly instruction. Brother Stroud views the Book of Mormon as a road map to achieving a Second Comforter experience. They can appoint themselves to be teachers but no one else can. You can edit this text and also insert any element here. Even though many people have heard Gods voice, received instruction from God or various angels, they are usually instructed either by scripture or by inspiration to not publish such revelations. Now after getting someone excommunicated and probably getting another podcaster taken down, they are also developing an appetite for it. He was born and raised in the Western United States, among the rugged Wasatch mountains, and the rural California coastline. Check out the latest breaking news videos and viral videos covering showbiz, sport, fashion, technology, and more from the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday. How are we doing? or obey a temporary local leader? June 6, 1891. It is a BURDEN on those so chosen. But its not just about spending time with deity. Apparently, some tried it and did not have a good experience. He mentioned a shift in tone and messaging from church leaders since Russell M. Nelson became president of the Church. Also known as Micheal Rush. including by not limited to: legal, investing, financial, medical, accounting, or any other professional advice. [This is a possibility.] Mike is addressing this subject which the author refutes as not based on scripture or the words of prophets. We are all equal. It is only by the Spirit that I know that The Church of Jesus Christ or Latter-Day Saints is a true church or that Joseph Smith was a true Prophet or that The Book of Mormon is true or that Jesus is the Christ and His Atonement is real. I would like to invite all who have served missions in Spanish-speaking or Portuguese-speaking countries, if you can, to refer these podcast lessons to those men and women that you worked with in the mission field and put them in touch with the Spanish translation of these Book of Mormon lessons and well soon have the first lessons in Portuguese. (Podcast 012: 1 Nephi 12, abt 20:19), The reason I suspect this was an issue is that in Strouds podcast where he announces his excommunication, he notes that he is only continuing the series at the encouragement of his children. And it the eyes of some, they may very well have pulled it off. The doc follows the same format. The examples you cite are things that happened to prophets which in nearly all cases not only did they not strive for those experiences they would like to have avoided them. The whole thing is very good, but if you're in a hurry scroll over to 22 minutes. Guilt. My heart hurts for them. There are things after I read the sources that he quotes, I dont agree with his interpretation. by Lemarque August 20th, 2021, 9:40 am, Post Here we have the author making another conclusion that leaves you wondering where in the world it came from. Michael and Amy began their career in the San Francisco Bay Area working for Ernst & Young, and started raising their family of six children. Clay Critter Dc, Still, this whole matter with Mike Stroud has been very disheartening. Michael can be contacted at [emailprotected]Michael B. Yes, he said almost. This document was basically their attempt to establish that. It also hinders our ability to love. What a political correctness faith we have become. God gave unto Zion (his church) a weapon against this, personal revelation through the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Its separation that brings about other fallen concepts you pointed out like comparison, competition, contention. "When You Wish Upon A Star: The Musical Legacy of Utah Composer Leigh Harline. When youre old, odd isnt as odd as it is when youre young and have a nice big box to fit everything into. You Asked, We Answered! This is a sad outcome to befall a man who had a lot of spiritual gifts to share. Its interesting that the author claims to have felt a bad spirit every time they listened to a Mike Stroud podcast. 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I appreciated Mike pointing out that Nephi told his brothers that they dont get answers because they dont ask or if they do ask then they dont really believe that they will receive answers. This weekend, after the death of Civil Rights icon John Lewis, Rubio tweeted out his condolences alongside a picture of himself with Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings. The question is whether or not were at a spiritual level to be teaching that we can. Any dominion I personally might exercise is a dominion of service as illustrated by Christs ministry and so eloquently by the washing of the feet. Stroud has taught no false doctrines that I can discern. The doc posted is not just showing why they think Mike is wrong but also trying showing the rest of us how the gospel is properly taught. . And trust and hope wanes., Indeed they do, it does. Instead they would take joy in the blessing of others and take equal joy in the blessing that God has given themselves. God has presumably chosen certain spirits in advance and has nothing directly to do with love for them specifically but rather love for the human race that is answered by providing certain talents at certain places and times. Whether Spencer had the experience or not is irrelevant. I have not listened to all of them. Known addresses. All of us have the same promise. While studying at BYU, Michael met and married his wife Amy - a beautiful Kansas girl. I know when Stroud got excommunicated, Julie Rowe suggested she would likely suffer the same fate (though I didnt get the impression it was imminent). Rush (Ezra's Eagle) and the FP Covid Statement, Re: Michael B. The fate of the last 2 "break-away" feathersand who they serve UNDER. I hope those in Mikes stake high council did not use any of the content in this doc as a basis for their ruling. No one in the church called them to write up that online doc. These men and women called to this ministry have an assignment in a future day when hopelessness and despair, destruction and death rule the day to go into these nations and through priesthood power and the gifts of the Spirit find these lost ones who have no hope of deliverance and bring them through miraculous ways superseding time and space and deliver them to places of safety and refuge set up by the Lord in his wisdom throughout the world, [57:26] Many of them will be translated in the flesh, as in ancient times, so as to be able to fulfill this mission successfully to bring these redeemed of the Lord to Zion. That America was prophecied 2600 years ago and it's fate was already chosen. And now about their doc. Continue to follow the teachings of apostate sects (such as those that advocate plural marriage) after being corrected by their bishop or a higher authority. I'm hoping he'll see this and come here and elaborate, since he disabled comments on the video. And now the message of this type of excommunication is that, not only are the noble and great ones given the authority to lead (hopefully to SERVE), but they are the only ones who should reach out and take hold of the awesome promises that are expounded in the scriptures. But I knew the couples and knew there were strains and rifts and issues long before Pres. Her six kids are totally screwed up. But I have read a lot of other material on enlightenment. And then Christ goes and talks about all being one , and that eternal life is to KNOW HIM in John 17. I also have a husband that is very nervous that I listen to podcasts by people who are on the extreme edge. No one does religious extremism better than Mormons! Please dont misunderstand, I am not saying that Mike Stroud is a prophet. LDSFreedomForum.com does not necessarily agree with all content posted by users of this forum. Rules apply to everyone else but not to them. Bro. I found this collection of essays by Michael Rectenwald, a former Marxist professor at NYU, to be a tremendous help in explaining how the woke folks sincerely believe the nonsense that they believe. I think Brother Stroud left orbit some time ago. Also I have pondered a lot on the fact that Lehi was not a prophet in his day but a regular man that spent some time pondering the teachings of prophets and had a vision and shared that vision. I think part of the disconnect here is what constitutes a moderate/liberal/progressive change. The podcast that I finally had to do research on and finally just Googled his name was the one on Familiar Spirits. Towards the end of the Saviors earthly ministry, His disciples came to Him with several questions concerning the future: Tell us what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? He is also an adviser with the National Diversity Coalition for Trump. Where are they today? And he always states if he is giving his own opinion about something and it is only to be considered by the guidance of the spirit. I have heard good things about a Course in Miracles and I have the book. I second the fact that Mike gives exact quotes, uses only scriptures and teachings of Latter-day prophets in his podcasts. Harold b Lee was in attendance once and powerful spiritual manifestations were received. I have served on the HC in multiple stakes HC , Temple worker in multiple temples HP group leader and my real claim to fame SM twice totaling 6 years, released when I turn 70 and presently teach an Institute class. Nor is it any different from what i have heard lots of G As teach over the last 60 years. Mike was not contradicting the Savior at all here. Shiver me timbers! "Always A Cowboy: Judge Wilson McCarthy and the Rescue of the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad." Turning again to Alma: 30:53 But behold, the devil hath deceived me; for he appeared unto me in the form of an angel, and said unto me: Go and reclaim this people, for they have all gone astray after an unknown God. Those persons are generally under a commandment to impart to the world only those stories that are appointed to be public. [59] Benji Schwimmer, the winner of the 2006 So You Think You Can Dance show. I have a doubt that I am wise enough to ask for what will most benefit me, my family, community and nation. They frequently inject their personal causes into any discussion whether it applies to the topic or not. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 10:06 am, Post Brother Strouds narrative is indeed lacking in much that might legitimize it. As much as Mike Stroud was loved at that meeting and in the online community, there would be others who would hate him just as much. Are you in a position to tell us what part of that definition was applied by whom in Mikes case? How can I do that in a paragraph and have it mean something? Disqus Notifications Not Working, Your email address will not be published. DSC, I agree that the church has always dealt with apostasy from either side (its interesting to compare Malcom Jeppsens early 1990s bell curve of membership to the December 2015 Enemies Slide released by MormonLeaks things really havent changed all that much). Where there is fear there is uncertainty/darkness. That was her discernment and no more should have been needed. If it isnt we might as well stay home on the Sabbath ,and watch the telly and drink beer. When I was younger I often thought as I read stories in the scriptures that I would like to have similar experiences. I am one of the authors of the Google Doc that is being blamed for Mike Strouds Excommunication. youre going to look a bit foolish when you say something like, oh, well these people all had visions and those were real, but these people having visions are making false claims or deceived by Satan or whatever.. And yet it is exactly the same thing they have done. Stroud most definitely does not set himself up as a leader or prophet of any kind. Follow this link to a Book of Mormon discussion on the moral fiber of the Stripling Warriors "Talking Scripture" Alma 53-63. The plummet is a depth line to measure how deep the water is. scootd28: I wish it were more readily accepted to talk about sacred things without pushback. [This is the most likely reason I can see, which is why I noted that hed previously been corrected on inappropriate doctrines and highlighted questionable teachings in his newer podcasts.] The grandparents shared a pie with some local American Indian friends, and they were later given a crude type of pie in return. What is told to your mind might be from God, might not be. Jana Riess research on Millennials: churchistrue quick take, Another Podcaster Excommunicated, But Maybe Not For the Reason You Think. Perhaps, Id better serve my own desire for Zion by showing more zeal instead of being pessimistic. Despite Satan's deceitful prophecy to the wicked that if they create a vaccine it will save them from the pandemic, they will in truth succumb to the plague and it will be like a plague of their own making (i.e. Without the illusion of separation, those whove had greater knowledge and gifts bestowed would not little need to hide them. by mes5464 August 20th, 2021, 8:57 am, Post He is the Author of The "Last Days" Timeline and website. Where are the stories of single mothers working desperately to provide food for their children, even to the point of offering their bodies to men of power who exercise unrighteous dominion? My response: When will they return? The pages in that book after my daughter was murdered helped my heart to forgive and let go and for that I am forever grateful for his words he shared. He was never under any threat of disciplinary action as far as I can tell, but priesthood leaders found several of his teachings inappropriate. To his credit, Stroud clearly identified those teachings in his final podcast, published November 5th. I am thankful for these choice lessons from an excellent teacher, and I mourn with Bro. Oh thats right theyre anonymous. the vaccine will be the plague). Donald Trump & the Davos connection. Here is a link where it is discussed. I would say all things in this world should only be considered by the guidance of the Spirit. When I was 15, I went to a youth conference where he spoke several times. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 3:57 am, Post As I have looked at the Ezra's Eagle prophecy from the apocrypha directly, I have noted many additional insights in The Last Days Timeline as I pondered Ezra's Eagle steadily for 5 weeks. I can remember my father going to the True Order of Prayer prayer circles held each month in our stake. The Lord warned us this would be a problem in the last days. That passion for Mormon doctrine did not prevent his 2003 excommunication from the LDS Church. Ive had plenty of dealings with Kimberly and her associates on social media. I myself would never say someone did or did not have these experiences. If we just use good judgement we will already be able to expose the lies. The problem is that the author does not know how the gospel is properly taught. [2:16] The doctrines of the Second Comforter, calling and election made sure, translation, and the calling of the 144,000 are among those specific sacred concepts that should have been spoken with more care and by constraint of the Spirit. And the whole time they dont realize the illusion that they are creating. Authors reaction. Some of the garbage they sell slays me. Nature and the great outdoors remind us that difficult times pass. 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